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The Shangri-Las were an American pop girl group of the 1960s. Between 1964 and 1966 several hit songs of theirs documented teen
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and melodramas. They continue to be known for their hits "
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", " Give Him a Great Big Kiss", and in particular, "
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" which went to #1 in the US in late 1964.


Early career

The group was formed at Andrew Jackson High School in
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, a neighborhood in
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,
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, in 1963. The group was two pairs of sisters:
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(lead singer) (born December 28, 1948) and Elizabeth "Betty" Weiss (born November 27, 1946), and
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Marguerite "Marge"/"Margie" Ganser (February 4, 1948 – July 28, 1996) and Mary Ann Ganser (February 4, 1948 – March 14, 1970). They began playing school shows, talent shows, and teen hops; Artie Ripp heard about them and arranged the group's first record deal with
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. Their first recording in December 1963 was "Simon Says", later issued on the Smash label, on which Betty Weiss sang lead. They also recorded "Wishing Well" / "Hate to Say I Told You So", which became their first release in early 1964 when leased to the small
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label. Initially the girls performed without a name for their group; however when they signed their first deal, they began calling themselves the Shangri-Las, after a restaurant in Queens. Some discographies list The Beatle-ettes and The Bon Bons, who both issued singles in 1964, as early versions of the Shangri-Las; however, they are different groups. Mary Weiss was the main lead singer; Betty, however, took lead on "Maybe" (the LP version), "Shout", "Twist and Shout", "Wishing Well", and a number of B-sides and album tracks. Mary Ann Ganser took lead on most of " I'm Blue", which is a cover of
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' biggest hit at the time, and was included on their 1965 album ''Shangri-Las 65!''.


Success at Red Bird Records

In April 1964, while the girls were minors their parents signed with
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; Mary was 15, Betty was 17, and the Ganser twins were 16. Having been hired by
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George "Shadow" Morton, they had their first success with the summer
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Remember (Walking in the Sand) "Remember (Walking in the Sand)", also known as "Remember", is a song written by George "Shadow" Morton. It was originally recorded by the girl group the Shangri-Las, who had a top five hit with it in 1964. A remake by Aerosmith in 1979 was ...
" (
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#5, UK #14). Billy Joel, a then-unknown working as a session musician, played on the demo of "Remember (Walkin' in the Sand)". The demo was nearly seven minutes long, too long for Top 40 radio. Morton had hired the group to perform on the demo, but Red Bird released a re-recorded version. Morton faded the new version out around 2:16. The recordings for Morton featured lavish production with heavy orchestration and
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s, and their next and biggest hit, "
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" (U.S. #1, UK #11), climaxes with roaring
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s and breaking glass. UK re-issues peaked at #3 in 1972 and #7 in 1976. The song epitomized the "
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"; other examples include
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's "Tell Laura I Love Her",
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's "Dead Man's Curve", J. Frank Wilson and the Cavaliers's "Last Kiss," Mark Dinning's "Teen Angel",
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's "Laurie (Strange Things Happen"), Twinkle's "Terry", and Jody Reynolds' "Endless Sleep". After the sudden success of "Remember (Walking in the Sand)", all the girls were called upon to make personal appearances, which required them to leave high school. Mary, however, stayed on for classes at a high school for young professionals in Manhattan. By the end of 1964, the group was an established act. They performed with
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, a Fall 1964 tour with the Rolling Stones, R&B artists such as
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and James Brown (who according to Mary Weiss was surprised to discover the girls were white), and '' Cashbox'' magazine listed them as best new R&B group. The group was also a fixture on the
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shows at the Brooklyn Fox from 1964 to 1966. They also promoted
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cosmetics. In March 1965, they toured the
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with
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and the Mindbenders, Herman's Hermits,
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, and others. The Shangri-Las appeared as a quartet to promote "Remember", starting with their stint on the 1964 Labor Day Murray the K show in September. Shortly before the Shangri-Las went to the UK for the aforementioned promotional tour in Oct. 1964, Betty Weiss dropped out temporarily, leaving the group as a trio. She is still featured on the recording for "Leader of the Pack", which was recorded prior to the release of "Remember". The trio which remained went on to tour the US and also appeared on many TV shows, including '' Hullabaloo'', ''
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, as well as the Iguanas featuring a young Iggy Pop. They also appeared as headliners on package tours such as
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's Caravan of Stars, and as said tours with R&B acts like the Orlons and
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. Later in their career, the Shangri-Las performed several college dates with bands like
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, and
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.


Public image

The Shangri-Las' "tough girl" persona set them apart from other girl groups. Having grown up in a rough neighborhood of
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, New York, they were less demure than their contemporaries. Rumors about supposed escapades have since become legend; for example, the story that Mary Weiss attracted the attention of the
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for transporting a firearm across state lines. In her defense, she said someone tried to break into her hotel room one night and for protection she bought a pistol.Iain Aitch
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Whatever truth the stories may have, they were believed by fans in the 1960s, and they helped cement the group's bad-girl reputation. According to Weiss, that persona helped fend off advances from musicians on tours. The Shangri-Las continued to chart with fairly successful U.S. hit
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, specializing in adolescent themes such as alienation, loneliness, abandonment, and premature death. Singles included "Give Him a Great Big Kiss", "Out in the Streets", "Give Us Your Blessings", the top ten hit " I Can Never Go Home Anymore", "Long Live Our Love" (a rare example of a song dedicated to the men at the time fighting overseas in
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), "He Cried" and the spoken-word "Past, Present, and Future", featuring a musical backdrop inspired by
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's "Moonlight Sonata". Noteworthy B-sides included "Heaven Only Knows", "The Train from Kansas City", "Dressed in Black" and "Paradise" (written by
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). Among titles in favorites lists is "I Can Never Go Home Anymore", the story of a girl who leaves home for a boy; her pride keeps her from returning to her mother who ''"grew so lonely in the end/the angels picked her for their friend"''. Lines from "Give Him a Great Big Kiss" include ''"When I say I'm in love, you best believe I'm in love, L-U-V"'', and ''"Well I hear he's bad." "Hmm, he's good-bad, but he's not evil."'' "Past, Present, and Future" has been said to be about rape, something Weiss disagrees with. She has said it is about "teenage angst," heartbreak, and "being hurt and angsty and not wanting anyone near you."


Disintegration and retirement

The group appeared on several TV shows and continued to tour the US, but in 1966, two of three releases on Red Bird failed to crack the U.S. top 50, though the group remained popular in
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and Japan. Mary Ann Ganser left, but returned early in 1967 when Marge–the most outspoken member, sometimes considered the leader – left. Red Bird Records had folded. The group recorded more tracks with Shadow Morton producing (some of which remain unreleased) and signed with
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. However, Morton had begun working with
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and
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, and Mercury had little enthusiasm for the group. During their Mercury stint, the Shangri-Las had no further hits; in 1968, they disbanded, amid litigation. All the Shangri-Las withdrew from the spotlight. Morton said, "The Shangri-Las vacated, they vanished". Reportedly they were angry that they had received few royalties despite the millions of records they had sold. Mary Weiss moved to New York's
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and then to
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. Returning to
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a few years later and prevented from recording because of lawsuits, she worked as a secretary while taking college classes. She then went into the architectural industry, working in the accounting department of a New York architectural firm. Weiss moved up to be the chief purchasing agent and later ran the commercial furniture dealership. In the late eighties, she managed a furniture store and was an interior designer. By 2001, she was a furniture consultant to New York businesses. She married in 1974, but the marriage ended in 1988; she married again several years later, and her second husband now manages her music career. Betty Weiss had a daughter in 1964, necessitating her absence from the group during this period. She was the only member of the group to have a child (who was raised with the help of Betty's brother George Weiss, who died in 1998). Betty Weiss also married and held several jobs and now lives and works on Long Island. Mary Ann Ganser began having problems with drug and alcohol addiction in 1968. She died in Queens on March 15, 1970, aged 22, of a drug overdose. (This may have been a heroin overdose as mentioned in a contemporary newspaper report and on her death certificate, or a barbiturate overdose as related later by her mother to a journalist) Her death has been incorrectly reported as having been caused by encephalitis, or by a seizure disorder. Marge Ganser reportedly returned to school in the late 1960s. By the early 1970s, she married (changing her name to Marguerite Ganser Dorste), worked for NYNEX in
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, and died of
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on July 28, 1996, at age 48. The group declined offers to perform throughout the 1970s, although they did have a few live performances. Following the successful re-issue of "Leader of the Pack" in the UK in 1976, which renewed interest in the group, Mary and Betty Weiss and Marge Ganser reunited. Contacting
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of
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, they spent summer 1977 in New York with producer
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. Paley said the sessions went well, but they weren't satisfied with all the material, and declined to release the record. The tapes are now owned by the Warner Music Group. They did, however, give a live performance at
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; Paley put together a band, including Lenny Kaye, and after two hours of rehearsal, the Shangri-Las returned to the stage for the first time in a decade. Although the Sire sessions came to naught, the group toyed with signing to another label; however, they were put off by the insistence of record executives that they be a disco vocal group, the musical trend of the day. Mary said she envisioned the Shangri-Las like
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. Eventually, the Shangri-Las split up again. Since the 1980s, a trio has been performing under the name the Shangri-Las, although unconnected with the original group. The copycat act was put together by Dick Fox, who claimed to have bought the rights to the name, and resulted in legal action from both sides, largely due to a video tape of the new Shangri-Las claiming in public to be the original group. The original group performed for the last time at a reunion show hosted by Cousin Brucie (Bruce Morrow) in East Rutherford, New Jersey on June 3, 1989. In March 2007,
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album by Mary Weiss (backed by garage rockers
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) titled ''Dangerous Game''. She performed in the
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Influence

The streetwise image of the Shangri-Las – initially a promotional device for "Leader of the Pack" – contrasted with other "girl groups" of the 1960s, and they were cited as an influence by 1970s punk rock-era acts such as the New York Dolls and Blondie; the latter covered "Out in the Streets" twice.
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have been performing "Remember (Walking in the Sand)" live ever since their early punk rock days in Los Angeles clubs. The opening line from "Give Him a Great Big Kiss" – ''"When I say I'm in love, you best believe I'm in love, L-U-V"'' – was used by
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on their 1973 recording "Looking for a Kiss". It is also used by the English pop trio SOHO in the beginning of their song "Nuthin' on My Mind" from their album, ''Goddess''. The New York Dolls' guitarist Johnny Thunders included a cover of "...Great Big Kiss" on his first solo album ''So Alone''.
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also used the line at the beginning of "Today I Met the Girl I'm Going to Marry" by his band
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on the album '' 13-Point Program to Destroy America''. More recently,
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(and the Cardinals) paid homage to that line in their song "Beautiful Sorta" off the album ''
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'', but they changed it to ''"When I say L-U-V, you better believe me L-U-V. Give me a beer!"'' In 2005, Julian Cope parodied the famous line in "Dying to Meet You" from his album '' Citizen Cain'd''. He's heard to say ''"When I say I'm dead, you best believe I'm dead, D-E-A-D"'' during the outro. In an outtake of "Careless" from their album '' Sorry Ma, Forgot to Take Out the Trash'', The Replacements opened with the line ''"When I say I'm in debt, you best believe I'm in debt, D-E-T!"'' In 1972, "Leader of the Pack" was performed by Bette Midler on her debut album '' The Divine Miss M''. The opening from "Leader of the Pack" – ''"Is she really going out with him?"'' – was recycled both as the opening lines of 1976's "
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" by the Damned, the first British punk rock single, and of "Kill" by the parody punk group Alberto Y Lost Trios Paranoias, as well as the
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of the 1979 hit song by Joe Jackson. Aerosmith released a more rock-style version of "Remember (Walking in the Sand)" featuring uncredited backing vocals by Mary Weiss of the Shangri-Las as a single in 1980. It can be found on both their ''Greatest Hits'' album and on their ''Night in the Ruts'' album, and charted on the Hot 100 at 67. Scottish alternative rock band
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cited the Shangri-Las as an early influence. In 1985, the band's guitarist William Reid stated: "We all love the Shangri-Las, and one day we're going to make Shangri-Las records." The Shangri-Las are referenced in John Mellencamp's 1985 single "
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" from his third album ''
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''. They were also referenced by
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in a ''
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'' sessions track, "Mr H Atom" / "You Know I'll Get You Baby", recorded in 1979, but not released until 2011.
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on her album, '' My Colouring Book''. The Johnny Thunders / Patti Palladin album '' Copy Cats'' (1988) features a version of "He Cried".
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artist Rowland S. Howard included a version of "She Cried" on his album ''Teenage Snuff Film'' (1999). Although most covers and remakes of the Shangri-Las material focus on the hit singles, some express the group's influence on them by recording songs from the Shangri-Las which were never released as singles by the group. Among these, the Los Angeles rock group
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Discography


Timeline


Studio albums


Compilation albums

*1966: ''Golden Hits of the Shangri-Las'' *1975: ''The Shangri-Las Sing'' *1986: ''The Dixie Cups Meet the Shangri-Las'' *1994: ''Myrmidons of Melodrama'' *1996: ''The Best of the Shangri-Las'' *2002: ''Myrmidons of Melodrama'' (Re-issue) *2008: ''Remembered'' *2008: ''Greatest Hits'' *2009: ''The Complete Collection''


Singles


Lead vocalist, per song

(Lead vocals were often double-tracked: The vocalist recorded her part and then overdubbed that part herself, singing the same notes and words, in order to "thicken" the sound) *"Simon Says"—Betty *"Wishing Well"—Betty *"Hate to Say I Told You So"—Betty *"
Remember (Walking in the Sand) "Remember (Walking in the Sand)", also known as "Remember", is a song written by George "Shadow" Morton. It was originally recorded by the girl group the Shangri-Las, who had a top five hit with it in 1964. A remake by Aerosmith in 1979 was ...
"—Mary *"It's Easier to Cry"—Betty *"
Leader of the Pack "Leader of the Pack" is a song written by George "Shadow" Morton, Jeff Barry, and Ellie Greenwich. It was a number one pop hit in 1964 for the American girl group the Shangri-Las. The single is one of the group's best known songs as well as ...
"—Mary and Betty in tandem (i.e., singing the same notes and words), with Mary mixed slightly louder *"What Is Love?"—Betty *"Give Him a Great Big Kiss"—Mary *" Maybe"—Betty (The overall song was slowed down during the mastering stage, in order to extend the length) *" Shout"—Betty (in spite of Mary later lip-synching the song on the Lloyd Thaxton show in February, 1965 due to Betty's absence) *"Out in the Streets"—Mary *"The Boy"—Betty *"Give Us Your Blessings"—Mary *"Heaven Only Knows"—Mary (The overall song was slowed down during the mastering stage, in order to extend the length) *"Never Again"—Mary (with Betty singing the prominent "baby" twice near the end) *"I'm Blue"—Mary Ann *"Right Now and Not Later"—Mary *"The Train From Kansas City"—Mary *"I Can Never Go Home Anymore"—Mary *"Bull Dog"—Betty *"Sophisticated Boom Boom"—Betty (with Mary Ann singing the ad-libbed "yeahs" during the second chorus) *"Long Live Our Love"—Mary *"He Cried"—Mary *"Dressed in Black"—Betty *"Past, Present, and Future"—Mary *"Paradise"—Mary *"Love You More Than Yesterday"—Mary *"The Sweet Sounds of Summer"—Mary *"I'll Never Learn"—Mary *"Take the Time"—Mary (with Mary Ann singing the prominent "yeah" at the end of each chorus) *"Footsteps on the Roof"—Mary


Notes


References


"Shangri-Las 77!"
footnote 4, by Phil X Milstein, Spectropop


External links


MacKinney, L. (2012). "Dressed in black": the Shangri-Las and their recorded legacy.
Doctoral Thesis by Lisa MacKinney
Fan website
an extensive article by John J. Grecco

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Listening


Interview with Mary Weiss
from ''Fresh Air'' radio program, NPR Podcast, March 6, 2007
Interview with Mary Weiss
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